Thank God! Guns now allowed at Florida State Fair (how else to shoot rampaging teenagers?)
Thank the good Lord!
I can bring my gun to the Florida State Fair.
Like I said, hallelujah!
Following complaints by a gun rights group, and a law passed by the Florida Legislature last year, we can all bring our sidearms to the midway.
“We have changed the policy to comply with the state law – it allows a person with a concealed weapon permit to come in with a firearm,” said Charles Pesano, executive director of the State Fair Authority. “We’ve changed some signs to reflect that.”
Instead of “No Weapons,” the signs throughout the fairgrounds now say, “No Unlawful Weapons.”
How else would one feel safe enough to chew some deep fried bubble gum (one of the new food items at this year’s fair) if you’re not strapped?
How can you enjoy the nutritional value of deep fried mash potatoes if you’re not carrying your glock?
Fairgoers are now permitted to carry firearms after Florida Carry Inc. and Marion Hammer of the Florida NRA complained to state Agriculture Commissioner Adam Putnam, said Sean Caranna of Florida Carry, a gun rights group.
“It was brought to our attention, and we quickly determined we wanted to be in compliance with the state law – we acted within minutes.”
It’s the first time in his experience, which covers eight state fairs, that fairgoers have been allowed to carry weapons.
“Since I’ve been here, the policy has been not to allow weapons on the fairgrounds just through good common sense,” Pesano said.
Sure, Mr. Pesano, but how else would someone shoot a rampaging teenager if they aren’t carrying their Springfield Armory 1911 Range Officer semi-automatic pistol, the gun of choice for Clerk of the Court candidate Scott Barrish, who made sure to bring the weapon to the fair on Monday.
As an incident at the Wisconsin State Fair in 2011 demonstrated that, rampaging teenagers are always a possibility. Which is exactly why some believe fairgoers believe they should come armed to the teeth. ”Law enforcement can’t be everywhere every single second,” Parrish said.
Right, that’s who I want to trust my safety to. Itchy-trigger-fingered nuts from Thonotosassa.
Fair officials, including Agriculture Commissioner Adam Putnam, are asking for trouble letting folks come armed to what essentially is a very large beer garden with fried food and amusement rides.
But wait, what am I talking about, the fair sounds like a perfect microcosm of the state itself.
Pass the ammo, carnies!
Material from the Tampa Tribune was used in the writing of this post.
by the way, albert….
some of your responses seem a bit frustrated and overly excited….is your fear of guns related in any way to the possibility that you believe if you had one that you might be inclined to shoot someone with it?…if so….then wouldnt it be you who should be feared and not the gun?…
after all…it is our recreational use and ownership of guns that you are trying to control…so one would think we would be the excited ones as you are attacking us…yet we resort to reason and you to insult, accusation and fabrication…go figure…
Just don’t forget this Cirrus – we are the well regulated militia.
Albert Cirrus said, “Like I said, the gun nuts have hijacked this story. They are not a representation of most people and not even gun owners, most people agree with me about gun safety. The good guys in this scenario like me want the guns out of the hands of the bad people, the gun nuts of course will never admit that they are the ones who support arming the bad people.”
Please Albert, enlighten us. Where did ANY of us support arming bad people? This is pure, unadulterated bovine excrement.
“And another point, the Second Amendment isn’t about individual gun rights, it’s about “well regulated militias” and today we have them in the form of the military and other “regulated” organizations that use guns for protection. In fact I believe the Second Amendment allows governments to put regulations on guns for safety purposes. The gun nuts don’t like those rules and think the amendment gives them some sort of “right” to do whatever they want which is wrong. So my question to gun nuts is: why do you hate the Second Amendment? I’m tired of your lies and your propaganda and it’s time to fight back.”
Perhaps you were unconscious for the last two Supreme Court decisions which declared that the right to keep and bear arms was both fundamental, individual, and independent of any militia service. But you are right about one thing. The Second Amendment does not give us the right to do whatever we want. The right to self-defense is inherent, does not come from government, and predates the Bill of Rights. The Second Amendment both recognizes and protects that right.
“Why are there so many gun nuts here? It’s like one of you guys found a bunch of fellow cult members and told them to come here to spout propaganda. I refuse to believe that these opinions are a representation of the public or even rational gun owners, who I support. Most people don’t believe a gun is just a “tool” like a hammer or a screwdriver, that is insane. A gun is specifically designed to kill (or severely maim), you can’t rationally equate a gun with another tool. That is why I label you guys “gun nuts” and I’m proud of it.”
What a lie! You don’t support rational gun owners. It is transparent by your posts. Most people do indeed view guns as tools. You don’t, that much is sure. And if you’re proud to label us as gun nuts, then you are most assuredly a fool who doesn’t mind being public in his foolishness.
Your assertions are ridiculous and unsubstantiated. You continue to provide only rhetoric and personal bias without so much as a shred of unbiased information. You rant, you rave, you insult, you name-call, you whine, you snivel, you claim to be able to infer the mindset of those who have disputed you drivel, and then you have the utter gaul to ask why you are completely outnumbered here? Perhaps it is because YOU ARE WRONG!
I’ll tell you what. Google “Raging Against Self Defense” by Sarah Thompson, MD. I believe you’ll find yourself in that essay.
In the vernacular of today’s net culture, you’ve been PWNED! Quit while you still have an iota of dignity left.
BNB, that has got to the dumbest thing said today.
You gun nuts should be thankful that we even allow you guys to have guns, if you don’t like the extra gun safety measures, you only have yourself to blame. People who think guns are like hammers deserve to be subject to extra scrutiny.
i fear ignorance more than any gun albert…quite frankly peole like yourself instill more fear in me than most criminals do….
arent you the one who is using incidents of criminals with guns to justify making others scared of guns?…instead of the criminals?…a criminal will commit their crime with whatever tool they can…if there were no guns they would beat people with sticks and use knives…they already do…its not the tool sir…its the person handling it…
the accident in the church was not because a gun was in the wrong place…it was because a person handled a gun negligently…a responsible gun owner does not do what that person did…period…the gun did nothing but what it was commanded to do by the person handling it…no differently than a car running someone over on a sidewalk…negligent operation is the crime….
“I’ll tell you what. Google “Raging Against Self Defense” by Sarah Thompson, MD. I believe you’ll find yourself in that essay.”
I already know by the title it sounds like a steaming pile of projection. We justly call you gun nuts and you reply by saying that we are “raging”, I’m rubber you’re glue, bla bla bla. Accept the “gun nut” label, like I said as long as you guys compare a hammer with a gun it will be fitting.
“Thank the good Lord!
I can bring my gun to the Florida State Fair.”
Q1: So what did you plead those felonies down to that you still have your 2A rights?
and
Q2: Were you born a douche bag or did you have to work at it?
“BNB, that has got to the dumbest thing said today. ”
i will consider that a compliment from someone with your agenda, sir…
“You gun nuts should be thankful that [we] even allow you guys to have guns, if you don’t like the extra gun safety measures, you only have yourself to blame. People who think guns are like hammers deserve to be subject to extra scrutiny.”
who is/are [we], albert?…the large number of people who are supporting your words here today?…it seems there are fewer of you than you might believe, sir…what we are thankful for is that the founding fathers of this country were thoughtful enough to put in writing their intentions for this great republic so that fear mongers like yourself couldnt just waltz in and trample out rights….thanks for bringing it up…
I think I’m done here, none of you guys seem to listen to my truth cause you are too committed to your ideology and propaganda. You are in a cult, there is no reasoning with you. You guys just want to instead shoot the messenger (pun intended). You guys lost your argument from the very beginning with your “a gun is like a hammer or a car” nonsense and you have just expanded that theme a little. I know right now the law is in your favor, but that is only for now. Like I said we need more pro-gun safety politicians in office to make us safer and stop you guys from harming us. Bye!
taking your bat and ball and going home, albert?….
@Albert
So in your Ideal world Albert, Florida and the U.S. in general should adopt laws like the one below. I left Out the County and the Year. Lets See if you can actually Get the point on this one.
“citizens were required to have a permit to carry a firearm and a separate permit to acquire a firearm. Furthermore, the law restricted ownership of firearms to “…persons whose trustworthiness is not in question and who can show a need for a (gun) permit.” Under the new law:
Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. Writes Prof. Bernard Harcourt of the University of Chicago, “The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition.”[4]
The groups of people who were exempt from the acquisition permit requirement expanded. Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP party members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions. Prior to the 1938 law, only officials of the central government, the states, and employees of the German Reichsbahn Railways were exempted.[5]
The age at which persons could own guns was lowered from 20 to 18.[5]
The firearms carry permit was valid for three years instead of one year.[5]
Jews were forbidden from the manufacturing or ownership of firearms and ammunition.”
So We have now limited the purchase and carrying of a firearm from anyone not deemed “Trustworthy” in the Government’s eyes, OHH Yeah lets not skip over that last Sentance. Tell me something How’d it work out for them??
My last post was deleted, I assume by the blog owner. So much for the First Amendment too, eh?
Oops, disregard. My apologies to the blog owner.
I said I was finished toying with this ignoramus, but it is just too much fun. But my parents will be really mad at me for making fun of the handicapped. (And I truly apologize to people with disabilities for the use of ‘handicapped’ and for comparing this nitwit to you)
Albert Cirrus says:
“Most people don’t believe a gun is just a “tool” like a hammer or a screwdriver, that is insane. A gun is specifically designed to kill (or severely maim), you can’t rationally equate a gun with another tool.
Really? Please cite your source for this fact. And I just rationally did equate them, so once again your are incorrect.
Albert Cirrus says:
“A gun is specifically designed to kill (or severely maim), you can’t rationally equate a gun with another tool. ”
All tools are designed for specific jobs. Any tool can be used for other than what it was designed to be used for. A tool is nothing more than that, a tool. Once again I will try to get into that little kernel of a brain in your skull. It is the wielder of that tool who is the danger, not the tool itself.
Albert Cirrus says:
“Right now the people with the most guns are right-wing nuts”.
Please cite your source for this golden nugget of “fact”
Albert Cirrus says:
“BNB, the founders were wise and they said a lot of great things, but they were in different times and their words should be interpreted the right way today.”
And just who is determine what is the “right way” today? Mental defectives such as yourself, or the educated people who now sit, and have in the past sat on the Supreme Court? By the way, the Founding Fathers probably never dreamed of computers, cell phones, TV’s, etc. So I guess we need to treat those differently under the 1st Amendment. Of course then nobody except your embarrased parents would realize you are alive.
Albert Cirrus says:
“These accidental shootings are a thousand times worse than shootings from criminals because all the people involved are innocent.”
Wow, I’ll bet the families of the innocent people murdered by bad guys will be happy that you think their deaths were not as important or as grievous as those killed by accident or negligence.
I’ll leave the rest to these other fine people, who keeping proving what a fool you truly are, to dissect and correct.
Albert Cirrus said, “I think I’m done here, none of you guys seem to listen to my truth cause you are too committed to your ideology and propaganda.”
Truth Albert? Really now. You have been afforded more than ample opportunity to provide truth. You hae instead provided unsubstantiated rhetoric. Perhaps Pravda would be the more appropriate term here.
“You are in a cult, there is no reasoning with you.”
When you provide reason, people will listen. You have failed to provide any reason whatsoever.
“You guys just want to instead shoot the messenger (pun intended).”
Castrated the messenger would be more accurate.
“You guys lost your argument from the very beginning with your “a gun is like a hammer or a car” nonsense and you have just expanded that theme a little.”
You’re right, Albert. A hammer and car are not protected by the Bill of Rights.
“I know right now the law is in your favor, but that is only for now.”
Gun control had its chance. It failed miserably and only produced more citizen victimization. Beautiful cities across America have turned into crime-ridden dumps because people like you mistakenly believed that criminals couldn’t get guns regardless of law. Thousands of law-abiding citizens were killed, injured, raped, and robbed because some government bureaucrat thought it would be a good idea to deny them the ability to defend themselves. The law is now in our favor because the people are waking up and refusing to be victimized any more.
“Like I said we need more pro-gun safety politicians in office to make us safer and stop you guys from harming us.”
Politicians across the country are realizing that embracing gun control is a political death sentence. Even Obama has remained silent despite pressure from the Brady Campaign and other gun-bigot groups. Face it Albert. Gun control is in its death throes, and rightfully so. It belongs on the scrap heap right next to the Edsel and wind turbines.
“Bye!”
Best thing you’ve had to say to this point.
Wow, my last post was deleted. Did I strike a nerve?
Wow, my last post was deleted. I guess Albert the Wise gets the last word. So much for freedom of speech.
sorry about the two previous posts, my mistake.
Bonz, I thought the same thing. The “newer comments” link is easy to miss.
Cirrus, that you are afraid and paranoid is something that you’ll have to address on your own. I see how you are a liberal because fear is what the democRATs use to get votes.
Guns don’t have accidents. People who don’t know what they are doing have accidents. Now, I’d be willing to have an IQ test and proficiency test to obtain a concealed weapons license if we also do the same to obtain a voter registration card. That seems fair.
And by the way, nobody here is a vigilante. I carry a gun to protect myself and my loved ones. I may or may not intervene to protect someone like you. Depends on my mood and on the situation. But, if you’re ever with your family and a couple of thugs pull their guns on you, you will be very happy in the end that a few concerned citizens spent their time and money to keep you safe. After the smoke clears and your breathing and heart rate return to normal that is. Then you will be happy.
Poor delusional Albert Cirrus… living entirely in his own head… no matter how many times people point out the logical flaws in his arguments or his intentional misrepresentations, he simply resorts to name calling.
Albert says: “These accidental shootings are a thousand times worse than shootings from criminals because all the people involved are innocent.”
Rational people respond: There are actually two flaws in that single sentence:
1. It was not an “accidental” shooting. It was a “negligent” shooting. Specific, improper actions were taken, which would have been avoided had they been following safety rules. And I know how much you despise actual logic, but just play along anyway … If you drink and drive, that is negligence. The people you crash into and possibly kill are dead because of the drunk driver taking specific actions that could have been avoided.
2. They are 1000 times worse? Really? So the family of a crime victim will only grieve at <0.1% the rate of the victim of a negligent shooting? Really, Albert? Even somebody as callous as yourself must realize that you are spewing utter nonsense and are being so astoundingly insensitive to crime victims.
I suggest that society could well do without your brand of blog-nut mentality.
And now you have moved your insults to the realm of terroristic accusations? It is so clear that you have absolutely nothing under the hood. I have yet to see anything resembling a reasoned argument from you. Instead, you continue to prattle on repeating the same tired insults.
“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”
This is about the clearest sentence ever written in a government document.
So Albert, only got one question for ya…. Seeing as it says the RIGHT of the PEOPLE to KEEP and BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. Shall not be infringed…. Hmmmmm…. So how the f*ck can you honestly believe that the second amendment allows for restrictions on the people owning guns. It rather clearly states the opposite, if you can read. You can read, can’t you?
One more thing, Albert, you are right, guns are different tools than cars. Cars accidentally kill 60 times as many people per year in this country than guns do. I assume someone as safety conscious as you surely does not own one of those killing machines on four wheels….
“none of you guys seem to listen to my truth”
…and there you have it. YOUR truth.
Albert, even knowing how you feel about me, if I were ever in the position to save your life from a bad guy with a gun, I would. This in spite of you calling me a gun nut, terrorist, cultist. You really don’t know the people you are demonizing. I am a Vietnam combat vet with more hours behind a gun than most twenty year cops. I am the last person I would want to face if I were a criminal. The great thing about our constitution is that it even protects those who don’t believe in it.
Score one for the good guys. The only “Nut” I see here is Albert Cirrus who I suspect is just another name that the author of the blog uses. His views are so out of whack, except with the fringe left, that he feels that he must defend his blog anonymously. What a joke.